Another defeat for one of Ilkay Gundogan’s teams, another forensic interview from Uncle Gundo analysing his team’s flaws – but which specific game situation might he have had in mind?

We also review Gianni Infantino’s FIFA 2030 and 2034 World Cup show, which united the world from Asuncion to Riyadh in a stunningly contemporary spectacle of managed democracy and Zoom calls.

James Horncastle was in Turin to see Juventus beat Manchester City. He joins us to talk about what Juventus did right, what City got wrong, and why some Italian media walked away from their encounter with the great Guardiola feeling a little disappointed.

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