Episode 3367: Wilson’s World Cup Wonders, Heimir’s Huff, Roma Penalty Profligacy

After yesterday’s chat with Jamie Hamilton about positions, relations & “socio-effective superiority”, today we bring you a palate cleanser in the form of… a long-form interview with Jonathan Wilson about his new book The Power And The Glory.

We discuss Ange alone in the forest, penalty drama in Rome and Heimir’s not for quitting.

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Plus there’s Welsh fans in full voice, Eoin’s maths, and Murph’s whist. And don’t forget, our final two live shows of 2025 will be in The Gaiety on Monday 13th October and Wednesday 15th October. The Wednesday show is already sold out, so you’ve got one last chance on Monday 13th October – go to secondcaptains.com now for tickets!

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