Episode 3371: Ben Healy On His Momentous Season, Peloton Politesse, A Long 10 Years, Steve Gerrard’s “Egotistical Losers”
A stage win, a yellow jersey, a world championship bronze medal, and a burgeoning rivalry with one of the most talented sportspeople in the world – these are just some of the highlights of Ben Healy’s 2025.

Ben joins us on the show on the eve of his last race of an incredible season to talk to us about Tadej Poga?ar’s domination, peloton politesse, and why he’ll be prioritising stage wins over general classification.
We also find time to try and decide if Ken should be sleeping in airports at his age, we remember Shane Long’s winner against Germany 10 years on, and we discover just who Steven Gerrard is calling ‘egotistical losers.’

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Ben Healy stormed to victory yesterday, seizing the yellow jersey, and Cillian Kelly of the “Did Not Finish” podcast, and TNT stats guru, joins us to explain how. pic.twitter.com/J4LgeNMMXL
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