Episode 3468: Epstein And Mandelson
The recently released tranche of Epstein files have produced countless sensational stories, and in the UK Peter Mandelson’s name is dominating the headlines.

Peter Oborne has been in political journalism for nearly as long as Mandelson has been in politics. He joins us today to talk about what he has described as ‘the gravest political scandal in more than a century’.
What makes the scandal so serious? Have politics always worked like this and the Epstein files are just giving us a rare glimpse of the reality? Or have people like Mandelson made them different – worse – than before? Are we, as Peter argues, lucky to have the Epstein files? And how will the discredited political system adapt and survive?

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