Episode 3580: England Does Dallas, Ronaldo Draws Blank, Motel Six
Ken’s not in Kansas anymore, he’s in Dallas, or at least he was there when England were opening their World Cup 2026 account at the stadium Jerry Jones built.
Managers change, generations fade but England remain the same. Or do they? Today/Tonight/This Morning’s pod is an exercise in Ways of Seeing. Can four sports journalists watch the same game and see it differently? Yes. Or at least one of them can.
And while Haaland, Messi, Mbappé and Kane are all up and running for the Golden Boot, Ronaldo has yet to register as DR Congo pull off an incredible result.
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Go to PatreonTwo of these three legends pulled an all nighter (unless you count power naps) and the other one escaped a bus and a glass cage to watch Messi
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