On the shores of Lake Como, surrounded by the gloomy mansions of the vanished 19th century European bourgeoisie, Manchester United went down to yet another all-timer of a defeat.

Afterwards Bruno Fernandes drove a stake through the heart of Michael Carrick’s remaining prospects in the job by pointing out all the obvious ways their gameplan was never going to work.

Again we gird ourselves to sift through the smoke and rubble.

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