“For reasons I cannot explain, David Epstein manages to make me thoroughly enjoy the experience of being told that everything I thought about something was wrong.” Malcolm Gladwell, author of Outliers and The Tipping Point.

We talk to David Epstein, author of The Sports Gene, about his new book Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World which puts to bed the Malcolm Gladwell 10,000 hours rule.


David examined the world’s most successful athletes, artists, musicians, inventors, and scientists and found that for most, generalists, not specialists, are the ones who thrive. Quitters, loafers, lollygaggers, late bloomers – good news! You will one day be as successful as Roger Federer. That’s a Second Captains promise.

Plus there’s Ger Loughnane V David Epstein, tough love and hazing, summer sampling, a Gameboy review from Eoin, and why true grit will only reveal itself once you’ve found the right job/sport/industry for you.

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