Today we’re talking to David Goldblatt about his new book, ‘The Age of Football: The Global Game in the 21st Century’.

David talks to us about whether he still feels optimistic that football can be a force for good on our minds and in the world, and whether in becoming a global cultural phenomenon like no other, the game has lost something of what made it great.

We also talk about the Xhaka aftermath, the latest incurious bulletin from Bale Industries, and how it’s possible that all the nutmegs haven’t just blended into one for Lionel Messi.

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