Episode 3392: Ireland Fade To Black, Clown Show In Chicago, Almighty Dollar, Sacha So FineBerg

Mon 3rd Nov 2025

Eoin, Ken, Murph, Simon, Shane Horgan

For an hour on Saturday Ireland looked comfortable, if not quite in control, against NZ, and then came a sliding doors moment as Jamie Osborne dropped a pass from Crowley, and within four plays the All Blacks were ahead and, as it turned out, home and hosed.

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Ireland have now lost to NZ three times in a row, and since the 2023 RWC have had very few good performances. We talk to Shane Horgan about the dramatic drop in standards for the final 20 mins and if this is proof of a slow decline in this team.

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We also discuss the faulty lineout, defensive errors, a lack of Irish line breaks, options for the Japan game and the PA/big screen/TMO clown show at Soldier Field.

Plus there’s breaking news on DJ Carey, Xhosa comms and selling the game to America.

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