A year on from his internet-breaking Harpers Magazine article on the World of Gooning, Daniel Kolitz is back on the show. This time he joins us from even deeper down the Slop-Mine as he comes up for air with a Baffler piece in one hand and a New York Times piece in the other.

Today he chats to us about more ”phone stuff”, such as pay apps and micro-dramas. It gets weird at points but after listening we will hopefully all be more aware of the psychedelic era of slop slurry we are living though and the far-reaching impact of AI.

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